So not sure if this makes sense but I started on a second sock but different colorway and I went up one size with the needles. Ladder thing was back a bit in the ribbing but better with the stockinette stitch. Knitting on 3's instead of 2's feels much better on the hands, I prefer the metal needles as well. Think I need to just keep going, enough stopping and starting. When I finish this one I will compare.